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This blog is a response to the following report from the Orlando Sentinel that states that the University of Central Florida will be cutting the five following programs:

  • Cardiopulmonary Sciences
  • Engineering Technology
  • Management Information Systems
  • Statistics
  • Actuarial Sciences

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/education/orl-ucf-program-cuts-060509,0,1772001.story

 

Now for my rant.  Having received my undergrad in MIS, this is mostly targeted at the university cutting the MIS program, which struck a chord with me.  :)

Here is what I am having trouble understanding: How can a university cut a program that is in such high demand for people when they graduate?  Granted, it is a bit more difficult to get a job these days with no experience than it was in 1998 when I graduated, but jobs are still out there for quality people who want to work hard. 

According to the university's President in the video posted below, students that have decided to major in one of these programs have been given two years to:

  1. complete their degree
  2. change their major
  3. move to another college

Two years?  Are you serious?  Why not four years to allow time for the freshmen to complete the degree that they are paying for?  How arrogant and short sighted can an administration be?  The victims here are the students who have made a commitment to the university. 

Something that's been happening a lot lately (and a lot of the people I work with are being affected) is the off shoring of jobs to India, China, and Eastern Europe where labor is cheaper and almost everyone employed in the IT industry have bachelors degrees (many have masters).  What I am afraid of is that if universities cut these programs then companies will be forced to offshore IT jobs because there will not be enough people coming into the industry to support the ever growing demand for IT people.  Not that this is a possibility, but who would have ever thought that a respectable university such as UCF would cut programs such as MIS?  (Disclaimer: I do support off shoring of the right projects in the right circumstances, but the stars do need to align to be successful.)

I wanted to do this blog to bring an awareness to this and support of my future colleagues who are caught up in this mess (specifically, the UCF students that are majoring in one of these degree programs).  You should know that someone in the real world sees what's happening and is as disgusted as you.  As you move on with your degree, here are a few things that helped me out that I would like to share with you:

  1. Go to career fairs and talk to potential employers as soon as possible, it's NEVER too early.
  2. Try to get an internship.  Some of you have only two years to complete your degree and this might not be applicable.  For those of you who are moving on, this can help you tremendously and will give you an edge over the competition once you graduate.
  3. Study hard and try to understand the stuff that seems dumb to learn.  Here's what happened to me...I never knew why anyone would want to take a software architecture class.  I thought it was dumb and a waste of time when I was taking the class as I knew I was a coder and I wanted to write code.  Any guesses as to what I do all day, every day?  Software architecture!  Good thing I listened in class!  :)
  4. Support each other.  The people that you are in class now will eventually have jobs and then work their way into management at a company.  Make and keep those contacts.  You never know where you'll run into these people once you hit the working world.
  5. Have fun, enjoy college.  There are a lot of social functions that you should be attending...despite what you hear, it will help you later in life.  :)

 

Announcement from the university:

http://news.ucf.edu/UCFnews/index?page=article&id=00240041037381429012136c33d79006600

Message from UCF President John Hitt:

Posted on Sunday, June 7, 2009 7:30 PM | Back to top


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One real irony is that the MIS department was the one teaching the SAP classes for the IT-based majors that wanted a solid set of electives to help them in landing their first jobs. Now it ought to be real fun to watch the IT Liberal Arts degree compete without any real focus.
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Thanks for the tips and your posting on this issue. It is nice to see alums helping out and spreading the word. I just made the cut off to continue my degree and graduate. I sat in the advising office with other MIS student's praying that UCF would let us finish our degree program. It is sad because we are the ones that will deliver solutions in IT that corporation need to compete in the ever changing market.

I hate to knock UCF,but sometimes I really do feel like they don't want me to graduate . They gave me a piss poor email explaining the situation and said that they would "help",but while talking to a adviser they don't even know who is going or staying. They are almost as confused as the student are. -- That is my rant :) and good luck to others that did not make the cut.
Left by matt on Jun 08, 2009 4:39 PM

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I would hope this would be one of the first programs which would be brought back if that is possible. Once budgets are balanced and if the economy starts to come back directly helping generate state revenue, funds should start coming back into the school. Being a 2000 MIS grad is pained me to see this.
Left by Dan on Jun 10, 2009 2:10 PM

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UCF is a terrible excuse for a university. IT and ITS departments? What did you expect would happen? Off-shoring has nothing to do with it. A Business school without IS is no business school at all. Go to Valencia, Cheaper and more prestigious.
Left by Mack on Jun 17, 2009 9:32 AM

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I need to take 18 classes to graduate, and then UCF cut my major which is IST... They do not let me finish it even I am planning to graduate Spring 2011. It is so sad!! If I choose to transfer to another university, I need to wait untill next year because an application due is over. If I choose to change my major, most likely I will lose many of my credits and start over!!
Left by amy on Jun 25, 2009 5:57 PM

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I did the smart thing when I grad from h.s. 1994 by going to Brevard Comm. College: Affordable and fair. 1997 I then spend 1 semester @ UCF: unorganized, no advisors and the one guy asked by staff to show me where one building was sneaked up behind me, tried groping me and kissed my neck from behind which is not what I expected or wanted from a school. Literally had to run away from that psycho and my instincts was that going to UCF was not a decent school. I then spent the whole semester looking for advisors, changed my major and went to VCC for 3 years, then 2005 I tried going back UCF told me they were charging me out of state tuition rates despite my living in florida since 1989. I went back to UCF in 2007 with proof of residency but they deny me fin aid because I dared to earn A.S. and A.A. credit at other schools and I'm over this credit allowance policy they have. UCF means putting up with roadblock after roadblock. I have been a student there since 1997 and I finally got out of the money pit major that's lib arts because you can take all the right classes and still not be "done" to graduate.
I now have roughly 27 credits left but watch UCF pile more on there. The major I'm in now with 9 more or plus classes was revealed to be non-accredited and no ventilation system in place which has caused everyone in that building to basically be high from chemical fumes since the building was opened. And even though I need fin aid and my grades are actually good now, I've been told by one advisor that I'm over credit hours and other advisors have told me that at 33 UCF still expects my mommy and daddy or my trustfund to pay for everything. Really? UCF knows of some trust fund I have that I don't know about? Oh, and my mom who had 4.0 gpa in her double major did everything and was ready to graduate but UCF refused. It's like UCF has a quota on how many students older than 26 are allowed to be seen graduating. UCF is famous for having a large student enrollment but I've only known 2 people to actually graduate.
Doing something illogical, fraudulent and unethical is typical of UCF, especially if it negatively impacts as many innocent people as possible. It's called U Can't finish for a reason and it's a whole new low when the majors that are actually obviously useful and necessary are the ones being cut. It's like the bizarro Universe diploma mill where you pay tons of money but instead of no work and a paper degree, you do all this work for no degree. I wish the board of governors would stop their ongoing golf game or lunch at the country club and overhaul UCF because it's a mess and it's getting worse. So, yes, everyone who is still a student andin those cut majors, if you stay, you'll just be throwing money away for more abuse because Hitt will come up with some other idea that'll cost you more money and set you back more from your degree. Transfer to another school where you get to major in what you want to do because there are better, ethical and more reputable schools in the USA. Watch: some nut from UCf will get outraged that I'm speaking the truth and they'll try to have me expellled. Might as well since I have to find more work in this spectacular economy with no college degree and raise money to go part time every year.
Oh yeah, my last meeting with fin aid the woman told me that taking one class per year for the next 9 to10 years unti i'm in my mid-forties was not a bad idea. Beacause that's the perfect age for me to get my first post-college job and start a family: when I'm almost old enough to retire and entering menopause. Pray for me and save yourselves: go to another school and transfer your credits over there because you might as well start over somewhere else when UCF will always try to prevent you from graduating.
Left by E. Newsome on Jun 26, 2009 11:49 AM

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It is just sad to see MIS cut; they don't know what they are losing at the moment. Almost all the MIS students who graduated with me last year, have jobs in prestigious firms, even in this dire economy. I wonder if the Finance, Marketing or General Business students were this fortunate. I am not trying to slam the other majors, just trying to point out how MIS students are in a lot of demand and especially SAP. They are so naive that they are letting SAP alliance go due to low enrollment, they could have at least keep it as part of Business School.
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