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Yesterday I had bid on a nice SXGA projector, but didn't win the item, being outbid by two people.  I thought it quite strange that less than 24 hours later I got a “Second Chance” email to buy the item.  After a little communication, it has become very obvious that this is by no means the real seller, as they're claiming to be in Orlando, whereas the real seller lives in Escondido, CA.  The most obvious element of fakery is that nestled in the HTML part of the spoofed eBay email is the user ID “rose1bwl”, which belongs to someone from New Jersey who has already closed their eBay account.

After Googling this phenomenon, apparently it's been going on for two years now, but I haven't heard about it until now.



To see what would happen next, I've sent this bozo a fake address.  I figure whatever comes of this should be good for some laughs, and perhaps informative to eBay's very busy security team.

UPDATE: More developments here.

Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 6:23 PM Exploits | Back to top

Comments on this post: Wretched "Second Chance" eBay scammers

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I got the same kind of message from "rose1bwl" on 16th August. I was bidding on a Sony Bravia 19" LCD TV - KLV-S19A10U, which closed on 14th August. I replied, but didn't hear anything back. Pain in the ass!
Left by Agent M on Aug 18, 2006 12:21 PM

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I've gotten a ton of these in the last couple days (was going after a high priced item as well).

Eat some spam boys!

Left by tweakt on Aug 24, 2006 8:43 AM

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My one is looks same as yours. All scammers!
it from:
I don't know why ebay can't stop them?

Second Chance Offer
Item: Nikon D70s Digital SLR Camera & Nikon 18-200 VR Lens (170024059542)
This message was sent after the listing closed.


Second Chance Offer
The seller is making this Second Chance Offer because the high bidder was either unable to complete the transaction or the seller has a duplicate item for sale.

Act Now - This Offer Expires Soon
To take advantage of this opportunity, please act quickly. This offer expires in 5 days.

You may purchase this item by contacting the seller at this email
To learn more about Second Chance Offer, please visit:
Left by Gerry Fu on Sep 04, 2006 7:05 AM

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It seems more pervasive with expensive stuff. I had at least 6 different scammers try to sell me the same diesel generator. I have given up trying to contact a real person at ebay with some ideas, so I just play with the scammers. I'll make fun of, or compliment their style, as appropriate. Then I will point out that if they are paying for the info used to sell me the generator (or whatever) they are getting ripped off because so many others have the same info. Then, I put a keyword list at the bottom of the email full of all sorts of provocative words and phrases which are guaranteed to trip the NSA and FBI monitoring systems for detecting terrorists. This recently reported bugging of everything has gone on for a long time and you can bet it has not stopped. Of course, this flags my file, too, but it would not be the first time I've been watched.

Where a website is referenced, I'll write a vampire program and attack. Usually they are using a folder in a corporate or university server where the vampire quickly attracts some attention!

I'm just trying to figure how they get my nom-du-ebay related to my real address, unless there are bots in the seller machines or ebay is hacked. I think every offer has come after a legit communication with the real sellers.
Left by Neal Collier on Sep 04, 2006 5:14 PM

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I got the same E mail. When its too good to be true.... it usually is. Its better to be pissed off than pissed on. They offered to pay the shipping. They had all these guarantees that you won't get ripped off.
Left by B T on Nov 01, 2006 2:39 PM

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