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I am so fed up with Visual Studio.NET 2005. First of all it is slow as hell, It makes me feel that I am using a computer developed in the 80's. It compiles each page into an assembly !!! Not sure who was the genius behind this idea. Then they came out with Web Application Project which has the same compilation model as Visual Studio.NET 2003 had. Okay good enough but how should I install it. Whenever I try to install it says you have previously versions already installed on your machine. Okay, fair enough but if previous versions are already installed why can't I see them in the "Add/Remove Programs" using the control panel. I think the best way is that when the new version is ready to install it should prompt that "Do you want to uninstall the old version and intall the new version?".

One other annoying thing is that it simply hangs up when debugging. This does not happen all the time but 5% of the time the whole application freezes and it hangs up. What's up with that???

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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:30 PM | Back to top


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Sounds like an ID 10 T error ;-). I have not seen that. Maybe it is version specific? Maybe your machine needs an upgrade of resources? I have 1GB and many plugins with my version and it seems to work well.

Hth,
Rich
Left by Rich on May 25, 2006 10:36 AM

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Hi Rich,

I am not sure what is ID 10 T error ?? I have 1.2 GB RAM but in my solution I have 3 projects one for each layer. The main reason is offcourse that VS 2005 generates assemblies for every damn thing in the application.
Left by azamsharp on May 25, 2006 10:38 AM

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You should go to Add/Remove Programs and select the "Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Web Application Projects" item to remove it. You can then install the final release which will fix your problem.

Hope this helps,

Scott
Left by scottgu on May 29, 2006 10:42 AM

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I agree, VS 2005 is slow. Slowest things I've seen so far:
Working with table adapter queries in a dataset designer (.xsd)
Working in the report designer (.rldc).

Also, many times I have to compile twice. I either get some low level complier error or it says it can't find a dll (referencing some obcure temporary dll it should have created)

I'm running 1 gig of ram and it's not using that much of it.
Left by Chad on Jun 21, 2006 6:31 AM

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I think the main reason for slow compilation is that it creates lots of assemblies. You can use the Web Application Project to create a single assembly for the application. Although I think this should this model should have been choosen initially.
Left by AzamSharp on Jun 21, 2006 6:49 AM

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It's not only the compilation that is slow... the editor freezes often, a lot of times for a long pause, does not matter if your computer is strong or not, there are also lots of issues with the editor falling out of sync with regards to it using things in temp cache etc... hundreds of people have posted issues, and the common solutiosn are restart IIS, close VS and reopen... although that may work, it's not a solution, and many times is very very undesirable. Why should i have to restart my server, becuase Visual Studio freezes.

The many assemblies is a little annoying, especailly in precompiled when you get 500 assemblies, and 500 precompiled files, etc... makes FTP time painfully slow just because to many files.

Web Apps offer a solution, but it's not one I can force on an entire enterprise developer team../. hey everyone, go install this extra thing and learn it... crappola.

.NET 2.0 is great, we all love it... Vis 2005 has lots of nice faetures and eyecandy, but MS passed on performance and reliablity in many cases for it... tough call to say if it's good or not, but we are all stuck with it :-) Hopefully there will be some service packs soon.

Also, if you do c++ i have been informed you should expect your editor to crash very very often.
Left by Jonathan Minond on Jun 23, 2006 9:15 AM

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I have to agree on all what you said. The editor freezes and the compilation is sooo slow that I can go out and do my grocery and come back and it will still be compiling. I am downloading the Team Suite for developers hopefully some of the issues are fixed in that application.
Left by AzamSharp on Jun 23, 2006 9:26 AM

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I agree. I use Visual Studio 6. It's many times faster than VS 2005.

I suspect VS 2005 has .NET code in it, which is (contrary to the propaganda) way slower than unmanaged code. No JITing, gargage collection, boxing, or array bounds checking.

I sound like the assembly-language programmers of the late 1950s and early 1960s who said the code generated by the early FORTRAN compilers would never be as good as hand-written assembly language. (They called it "automatic programming" back then.)

I think unmanaged C++ is the new assembly language; it can be used to speed up critical parts of a .NET program.
Left by Alan Balkany on Sep 26, 2007 9:43 AM

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VS2005 is extremely slow for any pure-C++ project of large size. I would agree it appears to be polluted with .NET, as it will occasionally freeze up not only the current instance but any others running on the machine - probably when it's invoked it's garbage collector. Don't tell me to get a better machine - I've got dual quad-cores and 8 GB RAM on XP64. Studio 6 was much MUCH faster, but didn't have 64-bit support and the stl was garbage, so we had little choice but to upgrade. RotNet is about lock-in, nothing more.
Left by Ted Yezek on Oct 15, 2007 8:19 AM

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